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You are not owed sex or intimacy. To men: want to be desired by other people? make yourself more desirable. As for women in this situation, that is largely self imposed because their sex drives are lower and they are often in denial about how their attractiveness declines with age, and are unable to adjust their expectations to match.

In the modern dating / hookup culture young men and older women are the clear losers. Men are figuring this out and largely either going full anti-women "red pill rage" into "$!tches aint shit" using women when they're older or opting out all together. Women party it up when young, and are then shocked only when the "good times" start to end as younger ladies supplant them.

The age old solution throughout the ages, has been to control female sexuality with shame (often enforced by other women). This is now considered unthinkable, despite the surge in single parent homes, massive decline in birth rates, increased loneliness and decreased happiness by all. So instead sex bots, prostitution, more welfare, and artificial wombs are promoted as the only politically tenable out. I think the future shall be inherited by the Amish, Mormons, and other such groups that have managed to find ways to maintain family units in opposition to modern culture. They're certainly the only ones breeding at above replacement levels.

TLDR: in practice based religion beats out free love in providing more sex, without all the messy fatherlessness and STD problems to boot.



And I guess you could say that nobody deserves to live in an safe environment free of violence, black people don't serve to not get beaten up by the cops, poor people don't deserve health care, nobody is owed a job in a non-toxic environment that doesn't kill them because of stress, etc.

So often when people have problems that are hard to solve the answer is just "talk to the hand" at best.


Even if one believes in forced labor in order to provide goods and services to those in need, are you really drawing some sort of parallel where people should be compelled to perform sexual favors for others? I mean one could be a full on communist and not think that state provided prostitution (where people would be assigned those jobs by the state) is ethical. Didn't think I'd see apologism for something akin to North Korea's "pleasure Squad" on Hacker News, but alright then.


I didn't say anything like that.

What I would like to do is disallow use of the concept of "entitlement" particularly "you are not entitled to..." in conversation.

There are many other arguments people could make, they don't need that one.

There is a theme in psychology going back to the Freudian days that female desire has a self-destructive aspect (e.g. "masochism"), we all know the woman who dates one bad boyfriend and then finds another bad boyfriend and another bad boyfriend. It's a subject that has been suppressed in serious discussion though because it is perceived to be antifeminist. I think it's going to come back.

Roughly it seems that many men are unhappy with their relationship prospects at age 20 but by age 40 many women have been going out with the men that they desire and found that none of them want to commit to the long-term relationship because... they all want the same few guys!

It could be if women had a more realistic understanding of their life course and prospects they'd realize what a dead end it is to be dating the guys they want and learn to want some guy that is not so exciting but that has the potential to be loyal... A solution looks something like that, not having state-endorsed prostitution or anything.


> What I would like to do is disallow use of the concept of "entitlement" particularly "you are not entitled to..." in conversation.

Why do you think the phrase shouldn't be allowed in this particular conversation?


This is an example of aspirational 1950s churchgoing America being seen as an "age old solution." That's not age old, not a solution, and not an accurate view of the reality of sex relations globally and over the long course of history.

Nostalgia is what people like Jordan Peterson are selling. Go back to the "good" (but very bad for most people) old days and things will be fine. It won't work.




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