I don't think I ever saw it mentioned in HN, but Hop[1] based on Bigloo[2] seems so much more than just a Scheme to Javascript. If I'm not mistaken, Hop (now hop.js) could even compete in a lot of use cases with Electron.

[1] http://hop.inria.fr/home/index.html [2] http://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/

I do. Checking it out.

I find it somewhat arbitrary that you accept scheme but not clojure as a lisp.

I accept Clojure as a lisp. Didn't mean to start a holy war. I just don't personally want to deal with it and its ecosystem, which includes Java. I need your average web developer to be able to clone the repo, run yarn, and go.

I understand your point, CLJS is a superset so it's ideal to understand the substrate that it's based on, it's more complex than just JS from that point of view but usability wise:

  lein new re-frame myapp
  lein run

or

  git clone https://github.com/jacekschae/shadow-reagent.git && cd shadow-reagent
  yarn install
  yarn dev

It is very much fire and go in a way that a typical JavaScript developer might grok

Ah, I don't use CLJS, and I had thought it was self-hosting.