What changed after this discovery? What was better or worse and how better or worse?

OpenClaw is so bad with Docker. I spent hours on it and hit road block after road block trying to get the most basic things working.

The last one was inability to install dependencies on the docker container to enable plugins. The existing scripts and instructions don’t work (at least I couldn’t get them to work. Maybe a me problem).

So I gave up and moved on. What was supposed to be a helpful assistant became a nightmare.

Did you try Incus? Gives you VM-like experience in a container

Why not use a VM?

Because I have a machine running dozens of apps on Docker and have a solid and stable workflow I want to take advantage of to manage my apps.

Why not ask an AI?

Same experience. I used Coolify and it was so hard. I wondered why people are so enthralled with this unacceptable UX for setup, only to realize no one cared about Docker and they just got a new Mac mini or used their own system.

I’m not an engineer and now I realise why I’ve been struggling getting OpenClaw setup in docker. I just can’t get it to work. Makes sense that it needs access to the underlying OS

Absolutely this. I finally got it working, but the instructions and scripts for setting it up with Docker absolutely do not work.

Well said. Second all of this.

Right now everyone is trying to figure out what LLMs mean for individual productivity. We still pretend we are doing most of the stuff when it comes to team dynamics and behave as individuals.

I’m curious to see what comes next and how team dynamics and collaborative work will change once we are past that phase.

In my vision people will answer questions that other humans or LLMs have based on tons of documents and accumulated context that is shared and things will happen.

What is missing yet is how to share all that context. I don’t think any one current solution will be the winner because they are all too brittle and crumbly. It’s going to be something new and everyone from the company will have to use it to be effective.

There’s probably loads of opportunity here.

Do what you are doing but dump the contents of tracing into an LLM agent (cowork, code, opencode, etc) and ask for it to take a first pass. It’ll at least narrow it down for you. Use a smart model and it should be helpful.

Hmm, which model would be a smart one for this case? Or I just try the latest version of OpenAI/Gemini/Claude, then?

I love Claude Code but that can be expensive. If you are on a budget you can do K2.5 with OpenCode.

Yeah, Claude's cost really adds up fast on multi-step traces. I haven't tried OpenCode yet, but I'll definitely give it a spin to save some API credits. Thanks!

If you want help you want help so I’m not going to judge that, but claiming you don’t have access to a Windows machine in 2026? How about virtualization and computers in the cloud?

Breaking down into specific issues would also help you find help as smaller and more specific asks are easier to respond to than the opposite.

That's a good point

I need someone with a Windows machine because I can’t install a virtual machine due to storage constraints.

We are about to see what happens when this is reality. 2025 law from Utah goes effective in July 2026 if I’m not mistaken and requires data portability between platforms.

https://le.utah.gov/~2025/bills/static/HB0418.html

I’m curious to see impact, adoption, side effects, etc.

All of the above and none at the same time.

Companies will run multiple things in parallel. Some will work. Some won’t.

Even the stuff that works, might work for a little time instead of the long run.

A lot will go to waste. A lot gets duplicated. A lot will be redone in the future.

My suggestion is: go as slow as you can but not slower. Do as little as possible but not less.

This has been the case for years

You have to learn by doing. Here’s a good tutorial for Fusion 360 -> https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLISvF10lebIzMQjtPhKVlCwzs...

And a classic for Blender from Blender Guru -> https://youtu.be/4haAdmHqGOw?si=7Sk-dxbyPFi5PL8u

I’m no expert but the little I know was trying to solve one problem after the other.

Thank you!