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> I’d like somebody to explain to me how the endless comments of "bleeding edge labs are subsidizing the inference at an insane rate" make sense in light of a humongous model like v4 pro being $4 per 1M. I’d bet even the subscriptions are profitable, much less the API prices.

One answer - Chinese Communist Party. They are being subsidized by the state.


When China does it it's communism. When companies in the west get massive tax cuts, rebates, incentives and subsidies, that's just supporting the captains of industry.

> Instead of fixing the UI they lowered the default reasoning effort parameter from high to medium? And they "traced this back" because they "take reports about degradation very seriously"? Extremely hard to give them the benefit of doubt here.

They had droves of Claude devs vehemently defending and gaslighting users when this started happening


The same company that claims they have models that are too "dangerous" to release btw.

> I've been increasingly "freaking out" since about 3 - 4 years ago and it seems that the pessimistic scenario is materializing. It looks like it will be over for software engineers in a not so distant future. In January 2025 I said that I expect software engineers to be replaced in 2 years (pessimistic) to 5 years (optimistic). Right now I'm guessing 1 to 3 years.

Tell me how this will replace Jira, planning, convincing PM's about viability. Programming is only a part of the job devs are doing.

AI psychosis is truly next level in these threads.


> Programming is only a part of the job devs are doing.

Programming is a huge part of the job. In a world where AI does the programming we're going to need 80% fewer software professionals.

It won't be a full replacement of the role, you're correct there - but it'll be a major downsizing because of productivity gains.


If the "new software engineering" is Jira, planning, and convincing PM's about viability all day, you can count me out!


Have you never filed JIRA tickets, planned, or debated viability with an AI? Which part of those are you finding that an AI absolutely cannot do better than the average developer?


> That people thought the sovereign waters of a nation were not their sovereign waters absolutely blows my mind. Is it poor schooling, some kind of warped world view?

Because they are not? Oman clearly shares a part of it.


Just more Microslop, amazing...


> China is copying them though. They are still behind, but they are catching up.

They have been "catching up" for the past 20 years.


China is producing 7nm chips and working on 5nm. The lead has shrunk to be almost insignificant.

People on internet forums are obsessed over "bleeding edge" fabs, when the vast majority of semiconductor products are designed for a specific process and kept in production for at least a decade.

If beating Taiwan is your definition of "catching up", then you're basically making China's status as a legitimate semiconductor manufacturer contingent on the obsolescence of everyone else's status. That's not very fair and it's not even something to brag about. Once you lose the grin, it would be game over for you.


> Tell that to the 30k+ iranian protestors that were killed. > Are you actually using "in good faith" and the current horrendous iranian regime in the same sentence?

If US needs to intervene, why are they are not intervening in Ukraine? Far worse things has been happening there for 4 years.


My point is saying that the iranian regime is doing anything "in good faith" is just beyond absurd.

They have long lost the ability to claim that any of their actions are in good faith.


I don't think the Ukranian people are being supressed by their own gov


Is the argument that the U.S. should only militarily intervene when conflicts are internal within another country, as opposed to when it’s one country invading another? As that’s the opposite of the established international laws around prohibiting one state from attacking another vs the principle of non-intervention.


1. The Russian position in 2014 was that the Ukrainian people in Donbas were being oppressed by the new Ukrainian central government.

2. There's a lot of domestic political/information suppression in Ukraine but I consider this somewhat normal for a nation in a pretty existential conflict.

3. The Ukrainian military is 70-80% conscripts, increasingly of the "forcibly mobilized" variety (look up "TCC busification" for examples), with almost all military-age males banned from leaving the country. Dudes are getting beaten up, stuffed into vans, and sent to trenches to eat Russian artillery and FABs (air-to-ground bombs)....against their will. I think that definitely counts as suppression.


What is Ukraine supposed to do then?


Lose. Evacuate the government. Then mount a guerrilla, and wait for an opportunity. It'll come, most likely sooner rather than later.

Why is that unthinkable? I can understand people in the US being unable to process such a scenario, but here in Europe, there's not a single nation that wasn't off the map for some time.

I know why Ukrainians don't want that, but the demographic costs of tens to hundreds of thousands of "military age men" dying are so huge that any plausible alternative should be considered, even if it's very unpleasant.


> Why is that unthinkable?

Because it’s unthinkably stupid.

> I know why Ukrainians don't want that, but the demographic costs of tens to hundreds of thousands of "military age men" dying are so huge that any plausible alternative should be considered, even if it's very unpleasant.

And you imagine they won’t die in your guerrilla war? Or the next invasion after an emboldened Russia regroups?


You're suggesting a decades long guerrilla movement under occupation will be better for the Ukrainian people than conscription during an existential defensive war?


In terms of the number of lives lost? Yes. Guerrilla resistance is a way of trading important advantages (like control of the territory or political legitimacy) for time and human lives. Guerrillas in a favorable environment tend to suffer much lower casualties per fighter per unit of time than trench warfare along a frontline.

It's a desperate measure, but so is snatching people from the street to bus them off to trenches.

Personally, I think people can live through almost any hell (and can make a comeback later) - unless they die, in which case they can't do anything anymore. Decades of hard times, in this view, are preferable to tens of thousands of excess deaths per year over a decade.

I understand why people are reluctant to consider this - I'm just trying to show that there are alternatives to the current situation; not strictly better, but at least presenting different trade-offs. In a situation of "existential defensive war," we should discuss all plausible options, even the most controversial ones.


Not necessarily, if Ukraine surrenders then Russia will disarm them. Then when they revolt Russia will be able to bomb them with impunity because the resistance will not have the air defenses and manufacturing that the Ukrainian military now has.

Not to mention that Russia will almost certainly genocide or atleast severely oppress the Ukrainians if they win


EDIT: important to note that abandoning the trenches and the frontline does not mean surrendering, and I never said they should surrender! I suggested evacuating the govt and continuing the resistance with other means - I don't believe the actual surrender would do any good.

You're right - the risks are, of course, very significant. And we've been through that here in Poland, historically, like 3 times already. We've had quite a few failed uprisings, and we've had anti-communist guerrillas here for a while after WW2 - they were quickly (it still took 3-5 years, though!) dismantled, and most of them were killed. So the risks are real, and it is a "desperate measure".

On the other hand, it worked quite a few times: Cuba, Vietnam, Afghanistan all proved that it's possible to win (or at least not lose) using guerrilla tactics. In case of Ukraine, I think the circumstances would favor the resistance: Russia's already not doing well economically; the "severe oppression" of the Ukrainians (which I agree would follow) would cement the support for the resistance, and it would cost Russia a lot; Russia had air superiority since day one, and it didn't really help them much (it would be much more of a threat had Russia have US-level intelligence capabilities - but they domonstrably don't).

Yes, as long as it's possible, the conventional war should continue. At some point, though, the costs (all kinds of them) of continuing to fight in the field become so high that it's better to stop and switch to other ways of defending.

I'm not saying that moment is now - and it's not for me to dictate when it happens - I'm just trying to say that there are other ways of dealing with the aggressor that may (in favorable circumstances) lead to lower casualties without forgoing the hope of eventually winning. Which I wish Ukraine with all my heart, BTW.


The countries that got invaded by the US fought guerrilla because that is the only thing they could do. It wasn't some deliberate strategy to rope the US in.

And the only reason it worked out for them is that the US wasn't determined to create new states and had very low domestic support to begin with. That's not the case with Russia where this war is clearly a big deal to them.


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> armed men wearing balaclavas drive up in vans and abduct people off the street to draft them into the military

Every country with conscription will do this if you refuse to show up.

> Both the west and the east have been pressuring them to hold elections to no avail.

Their own constitution and laws forbids it during martial law.

“Both Putin and Trump want Zelensky to violate the Ukrainian Constitution” is not the grand slam take you imagine it to be.


> Every country with conscription will do this if you refuse to show up.

Was that MP a draft dodger? The issue isn't them picking draft dodgers, it's them picking up anybody that looks like they might be a draft dodger and the tactics they employ to do it.


They haven’t had an election since the war started and routinely force unwilling conscripts into vans.


> They haven’t had an election since the war started

Because that’s what their constitution says. https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/ukraines-presidential...

> routinely force unwilling conscripts into vans

Can you clarify what you understand conscription to be?


> Because that’s what their constitution says.

“They have People’s Republic right there in the name, what are you people not getting about this?”

> Can you clarify what you understand conscription to be?

A violation of human dignity.


> A violation of human dignity.

A dodge, but we can work with that.

A yes or no question, now:

Would the citizens of a sovereign nation being forced to violate their Constitution by Putin and Trump be a “violation of human dignity” too?


> Would the citizens of a sovereign nation being forced to violate their Constitution by Putin and Trump be a “violation of human dignity” too?

If Ukraine was worth defending they would have no trouble finding men willing to die to defend it. It’s one of the most corrupt countries in the Western world, its women are being allowed to flee so that they can prostitute themselves to Arabs and Europeans, and it hasn’t had an election in 7 years. Zelensky attempted to take control of the country’s anticorruption bureau in July of 2025: “Many suggest the attempted purges are payback for NABU pursuing charges of illicit enrichment and abuse of office against former deputy prime minister Oleksiy Chernyshov, a key ally for the Office of the President.”[1] In November of 2025, Timur Mindich, a former business partner and close friend of Zelensky, fled to Israel after being accused of orchestrating a kickback operation in cooperation with ministers of Zelensky’s own government. [2][3].

You have the opportunity to go die for these people right now. An increasing number of men in Ukraine have decided they would prefer not to.

[1] - https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-r...

[2] - https://www.timesofisrael.com/zelensky-associate-at-crux-of-...

[3] - https://www.uawire.org/ukraine-s-anti-corruption-bureau-to-s...


Well, another dodge. I tried; it's a yes/no question.

> If Ukraine was worth defending they would have no trouble finding men willing to die to defend it.

So defeating the Nazis wasn't worth doing, because we had to draft to accomplish it?

> its women are being allowed to flee

Wouldn't the alternative be "A violation of human dignity"? Forced confinement in a war zone? You really should make up your mind here.


> Well, another dodge.

I stated my position plainly.

> So defeating the Nazis wasn't worth doing, because we had to draft to accomplish it?

What you are implying is that condemning conscription as a violation of human dignity would necessarily lead me to condemn the actions that led to the downfall of a regime that itself engaged in conscription. Your mistake is in thinking that one necessarily follows from the other. I could condemn the specific act of conscription while considering the acts of the Allies in general as morally desirable, I could take a utilitarian approach and say that conscription is infinitely undesirable but the Nazis were infinitely undesirable + 1, or (as is my actual position), I can simply say that both regimes engaged in acts of evil that I am unwilling to dignify by calling “necessary.”

Issues of moral judgement are pass-fail. An act is good or it isn’t. This manner of thinking does not require you to create a gradation between the stranger who tries to rape you and the stranger that tries to kill you; they are both simply behaving immorally. The Rape of Nanjing was wrong; it did not justify the civilian deaths that occurred during the nuclear strikes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

> Wouldn't the alternative be "A violation of human dignity"? Forced confinement in a war zone?

The discussion we are having is operating from the reality that Ukrainian men are being conscripted. If a man can be compelled to serve his country (I reject this premise), it follows that a woman ought to be compelled to serve as well. The conventional justification for exempting women from conscription has been that they are necessary for the nation to reproduce itself. But the majority of these women are not likely to return to Ukraine, so what is the point of treating them any differently from the men if they are already a guaranteed loss?

This is all tangential to the point I was making; you completely ignored the corruption scandals I mentioned.

> You really should make up your mind here.

You’ve been posting here too long to think that this sort of behavior conforms to the site guidelines. I have showed great restraint in writing this reply despite your inconsiderate behavior. My next reminder will not be polite.


> I stated my position plainly.

I stated my question plainly.

> Would the citizens of a sovereign nation being forced to violate their Constitution by Putin and Trump be a “violation of human dignity” too?

You've yet to answer it.

> This is all tangential to the point I was making; you completely ignored the corruption scandals I mentioned.

Yes, I ignored the blatant dodge attempt to drag things off-topic.

> You’ve been posting here too long to think that this sort of behavior conforms to the site guidelines. I have showed great restraint in writing this reply despite your inconsiderate behavior. My next reminder will not be polite.

Pick "tutting schoolmarm" or "internet tough guy". Both in one paragraph just looks silly.


> You've yet to answer it.

And I won’t. You’re a disingenuous interlocutor. You aren’t asking questions as an inquirer, they are snares intended to serve as rhetorical gotchas.

> Pick "tutting schoolmarm" or "internet tough guy". Both in one paragraph just looks silly.

I think it looks silly when an autistic 45 year man who weighs all of 110 pounds has serious opinions about a war he isn’t qualified to fight in.


What does the Iranian say? If we're all about respecting documents, we should make sure we assess them all equally. The U.S. constitution has a lot to say about many of the things that are happening right now, but those are being happily ignored. We can't even respect our own constitution, the idea that we'd respect others is laughable.


Trump’s disregard for both constitutions is not a good reason for Zelensky to ignore his own.


How do you even securely hold an election during a full scale war? Thousands are outside the country or on the front lines. You'd also be creating huge targets at polling stations. Luckily their constitution recognises it's a bad idea to try.


> How do you even securely hold an election during a full scale war?

America managed it in 1864.


> why are they are not intervening in Ukraine?

...we are? Totally insufficiently. And immaterially, now [1]. But we're still providing intelligence support.

[1] https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-america-stockpiles-army-t...


why are they are not intervening in Ukraine?

Russia is already a nuclear power. They are also diminishing as a nation almost as fast as China.


Because in Ukraine if we intervene directly the US will be at war with Russia. Instead we are supplying weapons and intel.


> we are supplying weapons

To be more specific, since 2025, selling weapons.

"And everything we send over to Ukraine is sent through NATO and they pay us in full." - Trump

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-trumps-full-2026-...

https://app.23degrees.io/embed/j4luMuv8fnpO2frL-bar-grouped-...


And at that point the US had already provided about $66 billion directly.


Sure, that was the old US. The US that's currently invading Iran is not providing free weapons to Ukraine.


> "And everything we send over to Ukraine is sent through NATO and they pay us in full." - Trump

Which the US actively funds…so after a $66 billion advance now the costs are being shared by other vested countries.


> The previous campaign lasted a whole 13 days and WW3 didn't start. I'm not sure why anybody thinks it'll be different now or why Russia or China would bother going to war for Iran. That makes zero sense.

We did not move 1/3 of operational USAF capacity and 33% of our deployable Navy for limited strikes.


Okay, and where's the army? I'm not sure what you're expecting without boots to put on the ground. Are the pilots gonna be ejecting to go hunt Khamenei? This argument is meaningless. Again, none of this can lead to WW3 and none of this can turn into a protracted war as in Ukraine-Russia.

You can stop when you have no idea what you're talking about, you know.


You seem like a Trump voter who voted for no more wars doing damage control

Boots on the ground can happen at any time if Iran manages to either hit one of the thousands of US assets in the region or worse they resort to terrorism with a theatrical attack like 9/11 which ended up costing so many lives , money and freedoms ranging from TSA literally up your ass to the destruction of privacy online and offline…..and of course as we all know boots on the ground


What do the three points of the navy trident represent?


> However i would say that yes, humanitarian intervention is one of the only non self-defense justifications for war that anyone has ever accepted in the post-ww2 era

So when is the US intervening in Ukraine then? Russia is literally doing human safari with drones hunting down civilians in Kherson.


> So when is the US intervening in Ukraine then?

Did you miss the absolute massive amounts of aid US has given ukraine?

Regardless, there is a difference between how war is justified and why wars actually take place.


> Did you miss the absolute massive amounts of aid US has given ukraine?

I missed US bombing Moscow, like they are bombing Tehran at this moment.


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