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What do you make of Netanyahu claiming that Iran was weeks from a nuclear bomb, 20-30 years ago?

What do you make of US/Israel assassinating the supreme leader that had declared a fatwa against nuclear weapons?

> This war was unavoidable btw

Wars of choice, thousands of miles away from the nearest US city, are extremely avoidable, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


> This is fake Iranian propaganda. It makes no logical sense. The force sent to extract the F15 officer (approx 2 C130s of people) is far to small to retrieve tons of nuclear material stored at Isfahan.

And how does it make any logical sense to send 100+ spec ops guys in two big planes to rescue one (1) guy in a remote mountainous location? That's begging for >1 casualties and PoWs in situation which would otherwise be capped at 1. Mickey mouse nonsense.

It's far more logical that there was a different operation planned, one that would actually require hundreds of special ops guys, like securing a strategic site. And just because two planes were "stuck in the mud" doesn't mean there weren't more involved or planned to be.


> And how does it make any logical sense to send 100+ spec ops guys in two big planes to rescue one (1) guy in a remote mountainous location?

I’m a former Air Force officer, and can attest that this is in fact a long-term standing policy. “Never leave a man behind” exists because if we didn’t have that policy, pilots would be too risk averse to fly the missions aggressively.

Check out the “Notable Missions” section for a few very public examples over the past decades:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_search_and_rescue


Love it! Thanks for the context.

I never claimed there was no CSAR operation, and you still can't explain why you need 100+ spec ops guys in two big landing planes for this particular operation.

The US military had information assymmetry and aerial dominance. They established contact with the missing WSO through a magical CIA technology known as a "satellite phone". They secured the area with aerial surveillance and strikes, then sent in a couple helicopters to do the extraction. Nowhere does this require 100s of operators on the ground, risking their lives and escalating to a ground war. This isn't the 1960s in Vietnam.


It's one of the reasons the US military is so good. As a soldier, you know they will come for you, behind enemy lines, so you can fight like hell, knowing that your fellows have your back.

The gains in morale can not be underestimated.


> And how does it make any logical sense to send 100+ spec ops guys in two big planes to rescue one (1) guy in a remote mountainous location? That's begging for >1 casualties and PoWs in situation which would otherwise be capped at 1. Mickey mouse nonsense.

Fucking software engineer "logic." They're not playing starcraft, pushing around mindless units that will thoughtlessly follow any stupid order you give them?

I'm a person. You make it clear you'll abandon me the moment it's "logical," I will abandon you. If you make it clear you'll go the extra mile for me, I may be motivated to do the same for you.


Below answered well, but if you were that 1 guy, wouldn't you want 100+ spec ops looking for you?

No, I would absolutely not want 100s of guys blindly crawling over the dirt, I would want someone to pick up my satellite phone calls and send a couple helicopters.

This is black propaganda, not a counterargument.

At most there were a couple thousand casualties from violent riots that involved armed gangs (or sleeper cells if you want to go that route).

There were not "60,000" peaceful protestors executed by the government, as Trump claimed yesterday without evidence. That is murderous propaganda, blood libel intended to deflect from the actual mass murder of civilians by American forces e.g. the Minab school.

It was a narrative specifically designed to induce comments like yours.


Suppose the age verification checks stopped. Where exactly are these kids supposed to find "random helpful strangers" on the Internet that isn't also a major vector for predation or nonsensical AI spam?

The open friendly ~safe Internet died long ago.


Reddit? Discord? Other niche forums like the Subaru owner forums or the various audiophile forums? HN?

There are so many places where no one even thinks to ask your age, they just help/troll/etc

If age verification were in place, you may be forbidden from posting to those places which is mind boggling stupid to me

I just don’t see the argument for age verification, it’s just yet another government overreach. It’s a well known thing to use children for any privacy reasons encroaching bills and they are always called “the save the children from online predators and other evil doers” so that you can be easily vilified if you oppose them


Unregulated/decentralized SSH key usage (i.e. allowing ssh-copy-id) is a dream for hackers to move laterally through a network. That's why many orgs disable it, and otherwise haven't invested resources in getting a proper centralized CA/authz server set up.

The "50,000 murdered protesters" is blatant atrocity propaganda to launder the actual mass murder of civilians and failed illegal regime change war by the United States and Israel. Nothing more. It is a lie told with the blackest of intentions.

"Who cares if we murdered 170 schools girls? The evil regime murdered 50 gorillian civilians so it's okay when we do it!"


this just says that you believe the Iranian regime and don’t believe the western democracies, nothing else.

there are names of people killed, and videos of hangings, and videos of basij forces shooting at people on the streets, easy to find. there are videos of Iranians celebrating the bombing of regime symbols – saying all of its "atrocity propaganda" doesn’t make it not be true.


> there are names of people killed

No, there are not. You're telling me there's 30,000 names somewhere of people killed. There aren't and it's ridiculous to claim that without a source.


check the other reply, liar

Google "human rights in Iran" if you think killing of protesters is a lie. Clearly you are here to spread agenda.

For any non-bigots that want to see truth, even if it doesn’t align with hating on Americans, Jews and the West. Iran based account exposing human rights abuses by the Islamic regime in Teheran https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english/

and non-Meta link https://hengaw.net/en


Why would an organization allegedly dedicated to uncovering "human rights" abuses have an empty contact page? Where are people supposed to report? Oh right, because they get all their "reports" from the US/Israeli government.

Your blind trust of random blogs by anonymous organizations is part of the problem, not the solution.


respected people from german kurdish and iranian community share these reports, i do not trust random blogs. you can easily see yourself security forces shooting at protesters - it’s you who seems to be blind

Please share some of these names and in which circles they are respected. Reza Pahlavi types?

anyone with a brain can google “hengaw credibility” and see what organizations rely on its reports. I will not give you, an iranian agent, any more attention

It is certain that armed gangs were activated and many people (up to a couple thousand) were killed in chaotic riots. There's video evidence of armed gangs in the streets.

The idea that tens of thousands of peaceful protestors were killed solely by the government, the same government that was decapitated just weeks later by a foreign war of aggression, and yet not a hint of mass uprising afterwards? Utterly preposterous, and I would be embarrassed to even entertain that narrative.

It's so obviously part of a cynical propaganda campaign to justify the actual unilateral mass murder of civilians by the Trump and Netanyahu regimes.


have you lived under oppresive regime? i have. its clear you have no idea what you are talking about

So are you saying no one was killed during the protests in January?

Nope, and you should read the rest of the thread before replying with gish-gallop.

If the number of deaths in the protests is above zero, how many were killed?

Again, you can answer your own question by reading the tiny thread, instead of responding with even more gish-gallop. Or is "read primary thread for context" not part of your AI tool set, Mr. New Single-Purpose Account That Only Posts Pro-Israel Propaganda On HackerNews In Violation of its TOU?

People usually link to a comment if they genuinely want the other person to read it.

Your vague reference to a thread elsewhere suggests you’re avoiding a proper argument.

Calling me names too btw.

Perhaps your hatred for Israel has clouded your judgement about the suffering caused elsewhere.


Not sure how anyone can believe this while, as another commenter points out, the US is proudly and unilaterally murdering speedboat users in the Caribbean without any due process.

Certs may still be the right approach, but OpenSSH also supports an AuthorizedKeysCommand which could be a secure HTTPS request to a central server to pull down a dynamically generated authorized_keys file content for the particular user and host.

If your endpoints can securely and reliably reach a central server, this gives you maximum control (your authorized_keys HTTPS server can have any custom business logic you want) without having to deal with certs/CAs.


There's also differences between fame, infamy, popularity and elite social status, which is probably not all that clear to newly-minted billionaires that are already lacking in the social skills department.

Or just a QR code sticker to a URL only accessible from your LAN

Homebox seems to be a good way to make that happen, FWIW. I looked at it for when I was moving house and it had way more than I needed. But it does support the QR code printouts.

Didn't homebox have some massive drama too? Stopped development, started, forked, fork stopped and started etc?

At least that was my experience when I was looking for an organisation system -and gave up =)


If it does have an issue, you host all of your own data and you own 100% of the URLs involved on the QR codes.

Idk about the drama, I just get stuff done and keep going.


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