that was ~20 years earlier but was so awesome when it was around. That and webvan were better (for customers, not for making money) than anything that existed until 2020.
I do think there are plenty of religious people out there who minimize the ill effects of climate change, believing (hope against hope?) that God would never let mankind destroy itself. Good luck with that.
seems a little strong, but I understand why they say this
> climate change is real, it has deleterious effects on our world, and we should take collective action to mitigate or even reverse it.
plenty of comments on HN to this day will disagree, saying climate change is some anti-progress conspiracy or hasn't been studied enough or won't be that bad, etc etc.
It’s ok to disagree. Disagreement isn’t verboten here. In fact, I’ve been reading the book Unsettled by Stephen E. Koonin which calls into question the consensus on climate change and the author makes some great points.
If the consensus is this lopsided I think it’s time to accept it. There are plenty of contrarian arguments, especially from oil companies who have a vested interest obviously) and they haven’t turned the consensus around despite their best efforts.
Also, due to the risks associated with climate change, doing something now as a societal insurance policy is prudent. Not to mention that polluters are necessarily infringing on the property and human rights of everyone else.
Very much an aside, but I'm struck by IBM's consistent iconic design language. For me it harkens all the way back to the futuristic design in 2001: A Space Odyssey from 1968. But you can also see it in their old mainframe hardware designs and other places.
Does a native UI experience have no value these days? I mean--amazing achievement building an alternate GPU-accelerated UI framework from scratch, and I do love the responsiveness, but this leaves you with a non-native app that doesn't follow OS conventions and will not get appearance and behavior updates going forward without a lot of additional effort.
The value depends entirely on specific conventions, but you've mentioned none. There is also value in consistent UI across platforms (which native UI don't support) as for some conventions you'd prefer to ignore the OS defaults.
The two primary OS items that turn me off of zed are not being able to have a title bar and the fact that menus open on hover and not on click.
VSCode, and IntelliJ let me turn on OS level title bars so I can handle the window without needing to try and find the magic spot not filled by some other app based nonsense as well as making it easier to see what window is active.
Menus can be unrolled from the hamburger but now pop open if I just swing my cursor through. I've no idea what convention that was pulled from but I think they just took the hamburger menu event triggers and left them as they were instead of changing them to act like an OS menu is expected to function.
I'm sure there are others that I'd find using the app but just those two was enough of a personal issue for me to just not bother.
Good illustration - if you have a more ergonomic window management workflow that doesn't require hunting for a tiny bar at the top, have a custom more prominent active window indicator, and use keyboard to navigate menus, these are less of an issue.
I definitely hate the non standard context menus that can’t render outside of their containing window. (And when they can’t turns out they can secretly be scrolled up and down) Yikes.
Unfortunately the reality nowadays seems to be that besides the dated QT, there are no good or popular cross-platform UI libraries for these use cases. It's bold that they built their own.
Electron has basically killed this practice sadly. Which Microsoft modern app follows Windows native UI these days? Teams? Settings? Office? All dramatically different.
TBH, Microsoft has made such a huge mess of UI on Windows, that even if you wanted to use the "native" UI you would have difficulties figuring out what that is, exactly, right now.
Having said that - Teams is a piece of #$%^&; and MS Office has dropped the ball with its UI switching to ribbons in 2007 and has languished in the land of bad UI ever since. Settings makes me want to just use Control Panel like a human being.
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