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It's humorous only because your expectations of China and the US are formed by Western propaganda.

I'm no fun of Stalin, but this meme about 20+ million victims needs to be purged.

"The scholarly consensus affirms that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991, such as statements from emigres and other informants.

Before the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the archival revelations, some historians estimated that the numbers killed by Stalin's regime were 20 million or higher. After the Soviet Union dissolved, evidence from the Soviet archives was declassified and researchers were allowed to study it. This contained official records of 799,455 executions (1921–1953), around 1.5 to 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag, some 390,000[ deaths during the dekulakization forced resettlement, and up to 400,000 deaths of persons deported during the 1940s, with a total of about 3.3 million officially recorded victims in these categories. According to historian Stephen Wheatcroft, approximately 1 million of these deaths were "purposive" while the rest happened through neglect and irresponsibility. The deaths of at least 5.5 to 6.5 million persons in the Soviet famine of 1932–1933 are sometimes included with the victims of the Stalin era." [0]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_under_Joseph_...


lol naturally the criminals were obsessed with honestly keeping comprehensive official records of their misdeeds

> I'm no fun of Stalin

I would argue for the generality of this characterization


>if you can't easily leave Russia, or you don't want to because you've been propagandized, etc.

It's bizarre that you don't consider that people first of all don't want to leave their country.


I didn't say that. I think you need an internet break

>I didn't say that.

Exactly. You only said about difficulties leaving and being propagandized. As if people need to be propagandized to be attached to their own country.


I'm so sorry, time on this thread has expired.

>I bet there would be a Russian fork suuuuper fast

There is Yandex Browser [0] which is based on Chromium and exists since 2010. Its share in Russia is ~33% while Chrome has 42% of the market [1].

[0] https://browser.yandex.com/

[1] https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/russian-...


Have you yourself fought anyone?

Besides arguing on the internet with strangers


The front line is everywhere, as you know. You are fighting an information war and some of us are here to troll you back.


Only online trolls with my NAFO brethren.


Some trivia:

Bureau 1440 is named so to evoke associations with Soviet era "design bureaux" which were behind USSR's achievements in technology, and with the Soviet satellite, which was the first in the world and made 1440 orbits around Earth.

The name of satellite constellation (Rassvet, meaning Down) is a play on early Soviet space programs' names - Voshod (Sunrise, like American Mercury) and Vostok (East, where the sun rises; was like American Gemini).


Tor works just fine in Russia


Hell, yeah

It might even work! Just kidding, it will work


Mobile internet in Moscow is restored today[0] and there was a report a bit earlier that Ukrainian terrorist cell planning drone attack and assassinations was dismantled[1].

[0] https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/8533593

[1] https://t.me/radio_sputnik/85322


>People have children when they have

Then why is the birth rate in Europe is as bad as in Russia? And the birth rate in 3rd world countries is several times higher?


Russia is indeed the exception. As a 3rd world country, anyone would expect it to have a very high birthrate.


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