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Agreed. I am getting tired of half the HN posts being about politics. I come here to get away from that stuff, but it is becoming a greater portion of the content.

Look at the number of responses on each article to see why that happens. Also, most articles aren't about politics. But the ones with lots of responses and discussion usually are. Network effect sucks sometimes...

I would mind far less if the political comments were only the political posts. I just avoid clicking into those.

It's when I click into an interesting topic, and it's steered into being an offtopic retread of every other thread about US politics. The upvote/downvote system simply no longer works to squelch it as it once did, because there are enough people here who believe "everything is political" and therefore it's always "on-topic".

That is their prerogative, but it has dramatically lessened my enjoyment and engagement on this platform in the last 5 years. And it's gone into overdrive in the last 6 months.


HN posts are mostly not about politics, at least not on the top page. Sometimes a non-politics post ends up getting politics comments though.

Twitter/X has the same feature. It is all I use.

That was my thought exactly. If small models can find these same vulnerabilities, and your company is trying to find vulnerabilities, why didn’t you find them?

Who is spending millions of dollars on small models to find vulns? Nobody else is selling here or has the budget to sell quite like this.

Anthropic spends millions - maybe significantly more.

Then when they know where they are, they spend $20k to show how effective it is in a patch of land.

They engineered this "discovery".

What the small teams are doing is fair - it's just a scaled down version of what Anthropic already did.


> What the small teams are doing is fair - it's just a scaled down version of what Anthropic already did.

Do they find novel items? Or do they copy the areas already found by others?


They have found a large number in OpenSSl

I speculatively fired Claude Opus 4.6 at some code I knew very well yesterday as I was pondering the question. This code has been professionally reviewed about a year ago and came up fairly clean, with just a minor issue in it.

Opus "found" 8 issues. Two of them looked like they were probably realistic but not really that big a deal in the context it operates in. It labelled one of them as minor, but the other as major, and I'm pretty sure it's wrong about it being "major" even if is correct. Four of them I'm quite confident were just wrong. 2 of them would require substantial further investigation to verify whether or not they were right or wrong. I think they're wrong, but I admit I couldn't prove it on the spot.

It tried to provide exploit code for some of them, none of the exploits would have worked without some substantial additional work, even if what they were exploits for was correct.

In practice, this isn't a huge change from the status quo. There's all kinds of ways to get lots of "things that may be vulnerabilities". The assessment is a bigger bottleneck than the suspicions. AI providing "things that may be an issue" is not useless by any means but it doesn't necessarily create a phase change in the situation.

An AI that could automatically do all that, write the exploits, and then successfully test the exploits, refine them, and turn the whole process into basically "push button, get exploit" is a total phase change in the industry. If it in fact can do that. However based on the current state-of-the-art in the AI world I don't find it very hard to believe.

It is a frequent talking point that "security by obscurity" isn't really security, but in reality, yeah, it really is. An unknown but presumably staggering number of security bugs of every shape and size are out there in the world, protected solely by the fact that no human attacker has time to look at the code. And this has worked up until this point, because the attackers have been bottlenecked on their own attention time. It's kind of just been "something everyone knows" that any nation-state level actor could get into pretty much anything they wanted if they just tried hard enough, but "nation-state level" actor attention, despite how much is spent on it, has been quite limited relative to the torrent of software coming out in the world.

Unblocking the attackers by letting them simply purchase "nation-state level actor"-levels of attention in bulk is huge. For what such money gets them, it's cheap already today and if tokens were to, say, get an order of magnitude cheaper, it would be effectively negligible for a lot of organizations.

In the long run this will probably lead to much more secure software. The transition period from this world to that is going to be total chaos.

... again, assuming their assessment of its capabilities is accurate. I haven't used it. I can't attest to that. But if it's even half as good as what they say, yes, it's a huge huge huge deal and anyone who is even remotely worried about security needs to pay attention.


Maybe they did use small models but you couldn't make the front page of HN with something like this until Anthropic made a big fuss out of it. Or perhaps it is just a question of compute. Not everyone has 20k$ or the GPU arsenal to task models to find vulnerabilities which may/may not be correct?

Unless Anthropic makes it known exactly what model + harness/scaffolding + prompt + other engineering they did, these comparisons are pointless. Given the AI labs' general rate of doomsday predictions, who really knows?


papers are always coming out saying smaller models can do these amazing and terrifying things if you give them highly constrained problems and tailored instructions to bias them toward a known solution. most of these don't make the front page because people are rightfully unimpressed

> why doing that with schoolbuses still isn't a problem?

Because school buses are very large and heavy and the passengers are high off the roadway. Buses also need to stop at all railroad tracks.


Car seats ain’t doing much if you get hit by a train.

Nothing will. Which is why buses are required to stop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_South_Jordan_train-bus_co...


Volumetric rate is all that matters to normal consumers. It doesn’t matter where the costs come from or why. Only $/kwh.


No, the bottom line on the monthly bill is what matters.


What would change is the government would need to greatly increase their debt. In 2025 the government got about $5.23 trillion in tax revenue and spent about $7 trillion. So most of the government spending is financed by taxes. Remove that and the rate of debt quadruples (and by extension inflation).


When do we finally hit the cliff? Deficit has been going up for decades.


> When do we finally hit the cliff?

When you can't pay the interest anymore?


Just add it to the deficit.

Fact is US is able to run up 39 trillion and counting in debt because it prints the god damn monopoly money. No one would offer a loan to someone with that financial history. Shit really went off the rails after Bretton-Woods, huh?


That seems like a terrible idea. A good tax accountant will help you find ways to lower tax burden and save money. The IRS has no such incentive, and will probably just tax you at the standard rates for your gross income.


GLP-1


Agentcraft is exactly what I was thinking about when I saw this


Caveat that I know very little about these labor relations laws. However from what I gathered from the article some entities like airlines and railroads are regulated differently than normal companies because they provide movement for essential goods. This means it involves more steps to go on strike etc. And now spaceX is considered to be one of those types of companies. As rocketry because more critical for our space infrastructure, I feel like this makes sense.


> As rocketry [becomes] more critical for our space infrastructure, I feel like this makes sense.

The justification for denying workers rights they would otherwise have was the extreme importance of moving essential goods. We're not going to have famines if SpaceX has a month long strike.


> We're not going to have famines if SpaceX has a month long strike.

But Ukrainian soldiers can and will die on the battlefield if Starlink has issues. We already know that it is vital for the Russians because their battle plans fell apart once SpaceX, the US and the Ukrainian government finally introduced a whitelist for terminals allowed to connect on Ukrainian soil. And SpaceX IIRC also operates a separate Starlink system for the US military.

This didn't pose an issue in the past because the DoD ran stuff on its own, no third party companies required... but heh, privatization rules...


There are also paths for the government to deny labor rights for military reasons.


That will come as well, this was just easier to do.

SpaceX is one of the few companies left that China isn't able to copy.



Nope


Yet


Not yet, at least not until the space rock mining begins.


Not then either, unless you like eating space rocks.


There could be a world where mineral supplies are exhausted/inaccessible to the point that extraterrestrial metals are needed to maintain the supply chains we need to feed billions of people.

Edit to say - that's probably a long way off / not likely


There could be a world where the muon radiation fallout of WWIV has contaminated all unmined terrestrial mineral sources.


> There could be a world where the muon radiation fallout of WWIV has contaminated all unmined terrestrial mineral sources.

All unmined terrestrial mineral sources? I don't know what the heck you're talking about, but that sounds like a world where everyone's dead. Pretty sure all the bomb shelters in the world are shallower than the deepest mine.


for all that elon is quite horrible by times, spacex is a meritocracy (that is hiring), and you have exactly one right in a meritocracy, which is to work harder and smarter. I feel that companys must be allowed to set up as meritocracys,(spitballing)for which I would add one twist, that they MUST hire a certain proportion of new people, on a first come first serve basis ie: anyone can give it a go, once.


This is the key passage. That may be true at some point, but it isn't now:

> The filing also disputed SpaceX’s argument that it is a “carrier by air transporting mail for or under contract with the United States Government.” Evidence presented by SpaceX shows only that it carried SpaceX employee letters to the crew of the International Space Station and “crew supplies provided for by the US government in its contracts with SpaceX to haul cargo to the ISS,” the filing said. “They do not show that the government has contracted with SpaceX as a ‘mail carrier.’”

> SpaceX’s argument “is rife with speculation regarding its plans for the future,” the ex-employees’ attorneys told the NMB. “One can only surmise that the reason for its constant reference to its future intent to develop its role as a ‘common carrier’ is the lack of current standing in that capacity.” The filing said Congress would have to add space travel to the Railway Labor Act’s jurisdiction in order for SpaceX to be considered a common carrier.


IIRC, SpaceX and some of their suppliers were considered essential personnel during the early covid lockdowns.


So were the folks at my local subway.

All ‘essential’ meant in this context was ‘gets screwed’.


Same for ULA but afaik they still have a functional union


Because they were essential?

Or because SpaceX is run by someone who doesn't care if his workers die, is a Covid denying crank and has connections in the Trump admin?


IIRC, at the time they were the only US option to get people to and from the space station.


Rockets do not move essential goods. This feels like a oligarchy giveaway to Elon more than anything.


SpaceX rockets move goods essential to our astronauts, DoD missions, and even our foreign policy via Starlink. I’ll go out on a limb and say you’d be unhappy if Elon cut Ukraine’s Starlink access and restored Russia’s, right?


I believe that SpaceX launches and operates satellites for the Department of Defense, which regards both its communications and surveillance satellites as 'essential goods'.


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