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> What about my severe plaque psoriasis, T-1 Diabetes, and POTS?

Thing is with those conditions is that there's an objective test you can take, with symptoms that are hard to talk yourself into with other people on the internet

ADHD, not so much


> ADHD, not so much

So you're one of those "I can't see it so therefore they're making it up" people. No point in continuing the discussion with you then


> So you're one of those "I can't see it so therefore they're making it up" people.

You said it, not me


> > So you're one of those "I can't see it so therefore they're making it up" people.

> You said it, not me

No shit, can't believe we're wasting electricity on this kind of bot output.


> when the current art is a reference to, and for fans of, art that was all about authenticity

Was it? Was the reason you enjoyed it because a human wrote it? Highly doubtful


I think you've misunderstood me. The Lord of the Rings has authenticity as one of its main themes. This is part of the work itself, not to do with its provenance.

What does it mean for a thing to be “authentic”? Tolkien hasn’t created anything since he passed away. I hear they used computers to some extent when making the lord of the rings movies, something Tolkien certainly would not have done. Should we thus criticize the movies on the basis of their authenticity?

Again, I think you've misread the parent comment here. The Lord of the Rings--the actual books, the content of the work--is partially about authenticity, in the same way that Spiderman is about power and responsibility.

I'm not talking about the provenance of the work, but the content of it.


I have not misread anything, my comment still stands.

Sure, but it's not relevant to the discussion or as a reply to me.

But an AI can create that same authenticity, if it doesn't matter about the actual provenance then

We're still not talking about provenance. Where something comes from is not the same as what it is.

The people who want LotR merchandise do so because they care about LotR.


> We're still not talking about provenance. Where something comes from is not the same as what it is.

Either define what you mean by authentic, or let us assume that it's a synonym for "something I like"


I'm honestly not sure how much more I can break this down for you. I'm not trying to be difficult here, but you keep on misreading and objecting to things I have not said.

The Lord of the Rings is about lots of things. Some of those things are orcs. When I say that The Lord of the Rings is about orcs, I'm not saying it's made by orcs, or that orcs were used to distribute it, but that orcs are something discussed within the text.

Similarly, when I say that The Lord of the Rings is partially about authenticity, I'm not talking about the way in which it was written, but the contents of the work. Authenticity is a theme in the books, discussed within the text.


If you can't even tell it's AI and need to be told... then what's the problem? Personal preference? It's like only enjoying paintings if the artist used horse hair and horse hair alone for their paintbrush.... A very arbitrary constraint

You really underestimate the LOTR fandom if you think they can't tell that the map is wrong.

Which part of the map is incorrect? It matches the other ones I can find.

https://www.moleskine.com/en-us/shop/limited-editions/the-lo...


That's not the AI picture. Or at least not the admitted one. Click the OP link.

If I forged a Picasso and convinced someone to buy it, did I do anything wrong?

Look at the names on the map. You don't need to be a LOTR superfan to tell something is off.

So it's not actually about AI at all? It's about it being incorrect?

It’s about humans presenting something plausibly awful in a deceptive way, and using a machine to be plausible and deceptive.

The telly tale flip flopping of someone driven by emotion not logic

It's not flip-flopping, they're answering the question that you posed. You claimed that the constraint is arbitrary, they demonstrated how it isn't.

I even made a better map in a few minutes to prove the point: https://bsky.app/profile/kyefox.com/post/3mkibnvrt3c25

There are still inaccuracies, but I'm also not pretending to care about legacy like Moleskine.


It's incorrect because it was lazily AI-generated. Most modern AI image generators can handle this if you're the least bit thoughtful.

Because the existing cultural understanding of art is that someone took the time to create what you’re experiencing. AI generated “art” subverts that expectation. It feels deceptive. Honestly it reminds of Duchamp’s Fountain and similar works, which some people hated for more or less the same reason.

I am not equating AI slop with Marcel Duchamp, however. His work and what he did was very much intentional to evoke the sort of reactions it did.


Moleskin is selling notebooks, not art. They happen to come with graphical elements, but I don't see them claiming those are art. So where is the deception?

> Moleskin is selling notebooks

When I need a notebook, I just go into a store that sells them and grab whatever they have. I have a notebook for logging my exercises and another one for random stuff, I have no idea what brand they are.

Moleskin sells fashion items. Or, maybe, an idea of a certain lifestyle. I'm not sure.


I’m speaking about negative reactions toward AI created imagery.

> Moleskin is selling notebooks, not art. They happen to come with graphical elements, but I don't see them claiming those are art. So where is the deception?

Come on, they're selling notebooks with art on them. Cheap, AI-generated art, passed off as premium.


>Because the existing cultural understanding of art is that someone took the time to create what you’re experiencing. AI generated “art” subverts that expectation

And? I don't care. Is the art good or not? I'm not searching for someone to admire, I just want good music


You could even say that AI generated art is an experience that artists chose to not create.

The AI art debate reminds me a bit of the blowback from Miles Davis, a famous at the time jazz musician, recording Sketches of Spain, which is not jazz.

His response was "it's music, and I like it".

Some of those pictures? I like them.


It's part of the current of poor quality research around autism and ADHD, often conflating them into unique condition Audhd.

I think AuDHD is meant to describe having both Autism and ADHD, not conflating them into a single condition

Autism is a spectrum but audhd seems only to apply to the non-severe end

That is correct.

Great for bombing hospitals and other infrastructure at least...

> However, a lot of design has a deeper life-cycle than that. There's the collaboration, pitching, review, iteration, asset management, etc.

Sometimes people want some graphics without it being like they're planning a wedding


> The sky is not falling, and WebUSB is not going to cause it to fall.

You could always write a native app. It's always been possible that way.


Sorry, no, I am not supporting Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android or multiple other platforms when I could just target one single platform - the web browser.

> the web browser

Which one? Your page looks the same on all major browsers does it? Didn't think so.


And you have one page for both mobie and desktop?

> So the alternative is installing questionable drivers from questionable websites that give an attacker full-access to the entire computer. This is far less good for security, and is unfortunately the norm right now

WebUSB isn't a driver, it relies on underlying usb drivers. What is the need here for a webpage that also needs to access specific hardware not exposed generically?


>WebUSB isn't a driver, it relies on underlying usb drivers.

I never said WebUSB "was a driver". But it does not rely on specific usb device drivers being installed for specific devices.

>What is the need here for a webpage that also needs to access specific hardware not exposed generically?

There are already plenty. You don't need to ask me because you'll likely just shit on what I write, so here's a list compiled by someone else:

https://github.com/webusb/awesome

That just scratches the surface.

I'm more interested in WebBluetooth, which Apple is also blocking from standardization. I manufacture a bluetooth enabled device that I'd like to have a simple web application to interface with, rather than needing to pay Apple for the privledge to develop an app for their app store, where they can then extort me for $$$ for any sales made through the app.

It's no different for WebUSB, it has many, many uses, but Apple is choosing profit over progress.


It's just not a driver though mate I dont know how I could make that clearer

Alcohol costs the UK 4-5x more than smoking. Coincidentally, it's the upper classes drug of choice. Must be a coincidence though

I’d say cocaine is the upper class drug of choice. Regardless, alcohol is every classes drug of choice. The debate over whether the government is hypocritical or not kind of ignores the reality that British voters don’t want alcohol banned. So the government isn’t going to ban it. Which is broadly what you’d want a government to do!

Alcohol is the deadliest and has the biggest social costs of any drug. Nicotine is second, heroin is a distant third.

Drugs that are largely harmless, like MDMA, are illegal with heavy penalties.

Drug policy is largely nonsense and rampantly hypocritical.


MDMA is a lot more acutely dangerous than nicotine, and somewhat moreso than alcohol. If you drink too much, you'll vomit, and for the most part be fine. Obviously that not always true (I'm sure everyone knows at least one person who had to have their stomach pumped in college), but for the vast majority of users, their body's natural defense against being poisoned works fine.

An MDMA overdose, however, needs active, external cooling to ride out. We don't really have a natural safety valve for overconsumption.

That's not to say it should remain banned (I'm quite pro-legalization myself), but it's not entirely arbitrary to have MDMA banned versus other, less acutely dangerous drugs. Better examples of unjustifiably banned drugs are psychedelics such as LSD.


Mdma is 100% proven to be neurotoxic... Ie it kills braincells.

As the US found out, alcohol is very very hard to ban because it is very very easy to make.

Also popular and part of the culture. Jesus turned water into wine but didn't pop out for 20 Marlboro.

Weed and tobacco are also very easy to make. They literally grow on trees[1].

[1] Technically, herbaceous plants.


Really in the case of tobacco, (almost) no one is going to grow it. It's a massive pain in the ass when most people are addicted to the nicotine. Synthetic nicotine in vapes are what would be black marketed these days.

It's way easier to ship as well discreetly, borderline impossible to seize in reality, which is probably one of the reason in SEA they are about to ban vaping, it's really a huge gateway to transport anything, very rarely LE is opening open and testing what the vape contains, so transporting large amount of any substances has never been easier.

Weed and tobacco smoking are also easy to detect by people who don't want secondhand smoke. And if it were illegal, they could report it.

> Upper classes drug of choice

You're joking me. It costs more in Australia for a pack of cigarettes than it does for multiple beers or even a bottle of decent wine.

Alcohol is not the upper classes drug of choice, its all classes drug of choice.


At least alcohol produces side effects that people enjoy. Smoking pretty much only has negative side effects once you get hooked.

Have you ever smoked? I feel like I only hear this sentiment from people that have never tried nicotine.

Nicotine absolutely produces effects that people enjoy. Smokers don't just do it because they want to smell bad and look cool.


Yes, I smoked for a decade. The only noticeable effect it produces after a while is providing relief from nicotine withdrawal symptoms. It does feel similar to regaining focus or calming your nerves, so smokers trick themselves into thinking that's what it actually does. Nicotine is also way, way more addictive than alcohol. I've gone months without alcohol with almost no mental effort but day 3 of quitting smoking was probably one of the most miserable and challenging of my life.

Is there proof that the positive effects are still there after you're hooked? Or are the "positive effects" at that point just a cessation of the negative effects of withdrawal?

Yes, absolutely. It's a stimulant, similar to caffeine. Just like how nearly everyone adjusts their caffeine consumption based on the situation (got to buckle down, drink an extra cup of coffee), people do the same with nicotine. It also still works as an appetite suppressant.

Now, the euphoric effects that you get at first, those very rapidly go away with tolerance. With habitual use, you probably only experience a tiny shadow of that with the first hit of the day, or a respectable replay if for whatever reason you go a couple days without (which is heightened by the cessation of withdrawal). The nausea and disorientation also go away, which is nice since otherwise it would be a problem.


We need objective research into subjective effects to really say either way, but such things to me are worth knowing

Sitting in a room with someone drinking doesn't give you cancer.

Just ban smoking indoors then

It gives you cancer outdoors too!

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