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They are at least more tasteful about it, but they do have to keep getting VCs. And no one has ever accused VCs of being smart or technical.

> Do you really think Zed's focus on AI is just about money?

Yes? Legitimately curious what other explanation is there here, thats the reason all of these LLM integrations across all software is being pushed.


The tech is inherently more expensive though. So if you want to undercut on price you have to cut costs somewhere.

This fact, which i do believe to be true, has completely killed my interest in almost all of other peoples projects.

My interest in a project has always been rooted in the idea that its interesting to see other knowledgable people or people learning to attack a problem for themselves. I have really never cared about the "thing that it does." I liked reading the code, dissecting attempts and really learning about the person that wrote it through their line by line decisions.

That is now all gone. The "noise ratio" of slop projects which have none of the previously interesting thought and intentionality have drowned out the "rigorous projects."

It's actually very sad for me, it was something I previously really enjoyed. I am looking for a board that aggregates projects that still have that interesting "human factor" i would subscribe in a heartbeat.


They had no reason to destroy their golden goose, why release something that could hurt their money printing business.

Honestly im rather impressed with how they handled it, they had enough of the infra and org in place to jump at it once the cat was out of the bag.

Sundar declared a code red or whatever and they made it happen. But that could ONLY happen if they had the bedrock of that ability already built.

No one really remembers now that google was a year behind.


So if you don't want to spend the time doing that, or as is more accurate in corporate settings, the general turnover of the team is high enough that no one is around long enough to build that deep foundational product knowledge, and to be frank most people do not care enough.

This is why telemetry happens, its faster, easier and more resilient to organizational turmoil.


> This is why telemetry happens, its faster, easier and more resilient to organizational turmoil.

I don't disagree with that, I was mainly talking about trying to deliver an experience that makes sense, is intuitive and as helpful and useful as possible, even in exchange for it taking longer time.

Of course this isn't applicable in every case, sometimes you need different tradeoffs, that's OK too. But that some favor quality over shorter implementation time shouldn't drive people crazy, it's just making different tradeoffs.


> even in exchange for it taking longer time.

I think in terms of corporate teams this is the issue a lot of times, people just are not on the team long enough to build that knowledge. Between the constant reorgs, these days layoffs and other churn the no one puts in the years required to gain the implicit knowledge. So orgs reach for the "tenure independent knowledge base.


Why would anyone bother doing this, prompts are not code, they are not shareable artifacts that give the same results.

Neither are bug reports or feature requests.

bug reports should be reproducable. They may even be statistically reproduceable. A bug report that cannot be reproduced is worthless.

It is not worthless; that means you need to work on making it easier to detect and report bugs.

Do you accept bug reports that just say "it doesn't work" or do you require reproducibility?

> Why would anyone bother doing this

For the same reason a PR can be useful even if it turns out to be imperfect. Because it reduces the workload for the maintainer to implement a given feature.

Obviously that means that if it looks likely to be a net negative the maintainer isn't going to want it.


Prompts that are used to generate should thus be put in the repo.

If i do the work for a feature im usually already using it via fork, i offer the patch back out of courtesy. Up to you if you want it I'm already using it.

Thats the highest score you can get, well done

You really think the 33k people that starred a 40 line markdown file realize that?

You mean the 33k bots that created a nearly linear stars/day graph? There's a dip in the middle, but it was very blatant at the start (and now)

Stars are more akin to bookmarks and likes these days, as opposed to a show of support or "I use this"

I intentionally throw some weird ones on there just in case anyone is actually ever checking them. Gotta keep interviewers guessing.

I use them like bookmarks.

I use them as likes

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